- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 18:55 #136039

@ Anonymous Founder: Με μισθό Ελληνικό ή Καταριανό όλο αυτό το πήγαινε-έλα;;;

Αυτή την στιγμή ο μισθός είναι ελληνικός (και πετσοκομένος λόγω κρίσης), αλλά αν δεν αυξηθεί σημαντικά, δεν θα υπάρξει κανένα πήγαινε-έλα στο τέλος...

Οι καταριανοί μισθοί είναι πολύ καλοί και οι προτάσεις υπάρχουν, αλλά η ζωή εκεί είναι δράμα.

- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 18:55 #136040

Δεν ξέρω για αυτούς αλλά λογικά τα ίδια θα ισχύουν/ισχύσουν.
Η 25ετία έχει σταματήσει από το 2011 νομίζω.

Μια κ δεν ξέρουμε εμείς, να ρωτήσουμε τον Φερχόφσταντ. Για να το λέει, κάτι θα ξέρει. Εμείς, κακόμοιροι ελ, που να ξέρουμε;

Ισχύει ακόμα η δυνατότητα συνταξιοδότσης στα 25 έτη, αλλα έγινε ασύμφορο (<750€) οπότε και το φαινόμενο πρόωρων πλέον σπάνιο. Την περίοδο 2004-2009 είχε τεράστια έξαρση, αφού η σύνταξη ήταν -10% του μισθού, κατά βαθμό-ηλικία, φτάνοντας τα 1.900€ , ηλικιακά στα 45-47 έτη (Ανχες η Υπλγοί εξ Υπαξ.)

Ηταν απο τους λιγους συνταξιουχους που ειδαν τις συνταξεις τους να αυξανονται επι Σαμαρα; Και αναφερομαι σε μεγαλες συνταξεις.

Ντοινννννν....

Ντιν νταν ντον.
Λες να μιλω χωρις να ξερω; Δεν το συνηθιζω. Οπως δεν συνηθιζω να γραφω σε τετοια θεματα για αλλους λογους.

Εχω απαντήσει λεπτομερέστατα εδώ ==> viewtopic.php?p=75037#p75037 . Επίσης, σας καλύπτω λοιπές απορίες εδώ: viewtopic.php?p=104089#p104089

Δε νομίζω η αξιοπιστία μου στο φόρουμ να χρήζει επιβεβαιώσης.
Μακάρι και άλλοι εδώ μέσα στα "κλαδικά-εργασιακά" τους να διέθεταν την ίδια ειλικρίνεια. Πάει η παπάτζα και η "υπεκφυγή" σύννεφο !

- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 18:57 #136041 @ΧΛ

Χειρότερα σίγουρα. Αλλά δεν νομίζω ότι περίμεναν αυτό. Η θέση μας ήταν αποδυναμωμένη από την 5μηνη χωρίς ουσία διαπραγμάτευση.

Ι need a six month vacation, twice a year.

- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 19:04 #136042 Μπα..το δημοψήφισμα μας ενδυνάμωσε.
Τι λαλάκες οι άλλοι που πήγαν αδύναμοι (=χωρίς δημοψήφισμα) στις διαπραγματεύσεις!

Γι αυτό τους έχουμε μαμήσει.

Μάθτε μπαλίτσα ρεεεε! Κουτόφραγκοι!

Το Plan C του Συριζα
Εκεί που τελειώνει η λογική αρχίζει η 'αριστερά'...

[drdino]

- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 19:07 #136043 Kacey, αν είναι να χρησιμοποιείς meme, τουλάχιστον κάνε το σωστά.

Κωνσταντίνος
Ο γερομπισμπίκης σε νέες περιπέτειες.

Κάτω η δικτατορία των shorts.

- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 19:11 #136044 Αν ήθελαν οι "επαναστάτες" να αντισταθούν στους Γερμανούς, θα έπρεπε να μείνουν εντός Ε.Ε. με κάθε δυνατό τρόπο.

Αν ήθελαν οι "επαναστάτες" ν' αλλάξουν την Ευρώπη ή να βοηθήσουν προς την κατεύθυνση της αλλαγής της, θα έπρεπε να μείνουν εντός Ε.Ε. με κάθε δυνατό τρόπο.

Εκτός παιχνιδιού μπορείς να παίξεις μόνος σου, χωρίς να αλλάζεις ΤΙΠΟΤΑ και χωρίς να πετυχαίνεις ΤΙΠΟΤΑ.
Στο τέλος καταλήγεις έκθεμα μουσείου ή μπαμπούλας για να τρώνε τα άλλα παιδάκια όλο τους το φαγητό.

Η "σοφή" αριστερά....

Η Αριστερά κυβέρνησε!

- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 19:12 #136045 Θυμάστε που προειδοποιούσα (strike that, ΚΙΝΔΥΝΟΛΟΓΟΥΣΑ) ότι η ελεύθερη διακίνηση αγαθών και ανθρώπων μεταξύ Ελλάδας και των άλλων χωρών της ΕΕ κινδυνεύει να γίνει μια πικρή ανάμνηση;

David Cameron 'prepared to halt immigration of Greeks into UK'
Prime minister says it would be in UK's interests to impose stringent border controls if Greece is forced to leave euro

Prime minister David Cameron Photograph: Yves Logghe/AP

Nicholas Watt, Chief political correspondent
Tuesday 3 July 2012 19.48 BST Last modified on Wednesday 21 May 2014 05.10 BST

David Cameron is prepared to override Britain's historic obligations under EU treaties and impose stringent border controls that would block Greek citizens from entering the United Kingdom, if Greece is forced out of the single currency.

The prime minister told MPs that ministers have examined legal powers that would allow Britain to deprive Greek citizens of their right to free movement across the EU, if the eurozone crisis leads to "stresses and strains".

In an appearance before senior MPs on the cross-party House of Commons liaison committee, the prime minister confirmed that ministers have drawn up contingency plans for "all sorts of different eventualities".

The worst-case scenario is understood to cover a Greek exit from the euro, which could trigger a near-collapse of the Greek economy and the flight of hundreds of thousands of its citizens who are currently entitled to settle in any EU country.

The prime minister said Britain is prepared to take measures to avoid a major influx of Greek citizens. "I would be prepared to do whatever it takes to keep our country safe, to keep our banking system strong, to keep our economy robust. At the end of the day, as prime minister, that is your first and foremost duty."

Asked by Keith Vaz, the Labour chairman of the House of Commons home affairs select committee, whether he would restrict the rights of Greek citizens to travel to Britain, the prime minister said he would be prepared to trigger such powers.

"I hope it wouldn't come to that," he said. "But, as I understand it, the legal powers are available if there are particular stresses and strains. You have to plan, you have to have contingencies, you have to be ready for anything – there is so much uncertainty in our world. But I hope those things don't become necessary."

Theresa May, the home secretary, confirmed last month that the government was examining contingency plans but indicated that she did not see any "increased movement". May told the Andrew Marr Show on BBC1 on 10 June: "So far ... we're not seeing any trends in any increased movements despite obviously the significant problems already economically in a number of eurozone countries. But I think it's right that as a government across the board, we look at the contingency arrangements that you know might be needed in these circumstances."

In his appearance before the committee, the prime minister also appeared to give the impression that he might abandon plans to publish the tax affairs of senior cabinet ministers. His remarks came after former Labour minister Margaret Hodge asked whether the government would publish details of so called "sweetheart" tax deals between the HMRC and large companies.

Cameron promised to write to Hodge after considering the matter. But he added: "The fact that we have taxpayer confidentiality is hugely important. Imagine the dangers of politicians fiddling around with each other's tax affairs. It just doesn't bear thinking about."

It is understood that the prime minister will publish limited tax details of a handful of senior cabinet ministers by the next general election in 2015. Cameron is understood to feel he has to follow the "Boris precedent" – the commitment by the London mayor in the recent election to publish his tax details – though it is expected that the prime minister will publish a redacted version of his tax return.

Πηγή: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/jul/ ... -greece-uk

Που είναι το εικονίδιο που κοπανάει το κεφάλι του στον τοίχο όταν το χρειάζεσαι;

- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 19:17 #136048 Γιατί άργησες 3 χρόνια να το ποστάρεις;

- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 19:17 #136049 Tuesday 3 July 2012 19.48 BST

Και πολλοί συριζαίοι έχουν τσιμπίσει με κάμερον, DICKHEAD DICK κλπ.

Τελευταία επεξεργασία από krom και 08 Ιούλ 2015, 19:19, έχει επεξεργασθεί 1 φορά/ες συνολικά

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- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 19:18 #136050 ΓΟΥΣΤΑΡΩ πάντως να κάθεται ο Φαράτζ στις πύλες της Αγγλίας και να διώχνει τους Έλληνες, αφού θα έχουν κάνει αυτό που τους πρότεινε στο Ευρωκοινοβούλιο.

Η Αριστερά κυβέρνησε!

- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 19:18 #136051 Γιατί δεν είχα δει το άρθρο.

- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 19:19 #136053 Ό,τι έχει "κακό" τίτλο πάντως διαδίδεται τάχιστα το τελευταίο 10ήμερο (ασχέτως ημερομηνίας) ...

Focus III 1.6 Ecoboost 150

- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 19:22 #136056 Πάντως και να ίσχυε οι έλληνες είναι το τελευταίο του πρόβλημα. Βλέπε τι γίνεται σε εμάς από Συρία, Αφγανιστάν, Ιράκ κτλ.
Ολοι αυτοί άλλο προορισμό έχουν.

Ι need a six month vacation, twice a year.

- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 19:25 #136058

Θυμάστε που προειδοποιούσα (strike that, ΚΙΝΔΥΝΟΛΟΓΟΥΣΑ) ότι η ελεύθερη διακίνηση αγαθών και ανθρώπων μεταξύ Ελλάδας και των άλλων χωρών της ΕΕ κινδυνεύει να γίνει μια πικρή ανάμνηση;

David Cameron 'prepared to halt immigration of Greeks into UK'
Prime minister says it would be in UK's interests to impose stringent border controls if Greece is forced to leave euro

Prime minister David Cameron Photograph: Yves Logghe/AP

Nicholas Watt, Chief political correspondent
Tuesday 3 July 2012 19.48 BST Last modified on Wednesday 21 May 2014 05.10 BST

David Cameron is prepared to override Britain's historic obligations under EU treaties and impose stringent border controls that would block Greek citizens from entering the United Kingdom, if Greece is forced out of the single currency.

The prime minister told MPs that ministers have examined legal powers that would allow Britain to deprive Greek citizens of their right to free movement across the EU, if the eurozone crisis leads to "stresses and strains".

In an appearance before senior MPs on the cross-party House of Commons liaison committee, the prime minister confirmed that ministers have drawn up contingency plans for "all sorts of different eventualities".

The worst-case scenario is understood to cover a Greek exit from the euro, which could trigger a near-collapse of the Greek economy and the flight of hundreds of thousands of its citizens who are currently entitled to settle in any EU country.

The prime minister said Britain is prepared to take measures to avoid a major influx of Greek citizens. "I would be prepared to do whatever it takes to keep our country safe, to keep our banking system strong, to keep our economy robust. At the end of the day, as prime minister, that is your first and foremost duty."

Asked by Keith Vaz, the Labour chairman of the House of Commons home affairs select committee, whether he would restrict the rights of Greek citizens to travel to Britain, the prime minister said he would be prepared to trigger such powers.

"I hope it wouldn't come to that," he said. "But, as I understand it, the legal powers are available if there are particular stresses and strains. You have to plan, you have to have contingencies, you have to be ready for anything – there is so much uncertainty in our world. But I hope those things don't become necessary."

Theresa May, the home secretary, confirmed last month that the government was examining contingency plans but indicated that she did not see any "increased movement". May told the Andrew Marr Show on BBC1 on 10 June: "So far ... we're not seeing any trends in any increased movements despite obviously the significant problems already economically in a number of eurozone countries. But I think it's right that as a government across the board, we look at the contingency arrangements that you know might be needed in these circumstances."

In his appearance before the committee, the prime minister also appeared to give the impression that he might abandon plans to publish the tax affairs of senior cabinet ministers. His remarks came after former Labour minister Margaret Hodge asked whether the government would publish details of so called "sweetheart" tax deals between the HMRC and large companies.

Cameron promised to write to Hodge after considering the matter. But he added: "The fact that we have taxpayer confidentiality is hugely important. Imagine the dangers of politicians fiddling around with each other's tax affairs. It just doesn't bear thinking about."

It is understood that the prime minister will publish limited tax details of a handful of senior cabinet ministers by the next general election in 2015. Cameron is understood to feel he has to follow the "Boris precedent" – the commitment by the London mayor in the recent election to publish his tax details – though it is expected that the prime minister will publish a redacted version of his tax return.

Πηγή: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/jul/ ... -greece-uk

Που είναι το εικονίδιο που κοπανάει το κεφάλι του στον τοίχο όταν το χρειάζεσαι;

Το καταργησαμε πριν 3χρονια και 5 ημερες.

- 08 Ιούλ 2015, 19:25 #136059

Ποιά είναι ακριβώς τα προνόμια των στρατιωτικών;

τζαμπατζηλίκια τύπου λέσχες, πρατήρια, κααυ

συντάξεις ανύπαντρων θυγατέρων (βλέπε σολωμού) , πρόωρες συνταξιοδοτήσεις με παχουλά (τουλάχιστον όσο ήμουν εγώ) εφαπαξ που έπαιζαν για αξιωματικούς από 90-150Κ, απαίτηση που είχαν κερδίσει δικαστικά όσων έφταναν μέχρι συνταγματάρχες (και έφευγαν ως ταξίαρχοι) να παίρνουν συντάξεις στρατηγών είναι μερικά από όσα μου έρχονται στο μυαλό..

καθηγητές τρεις και εχάθη η πατρίς