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By g8777
#858393
It was on the morning of February 2nd, just one day after the announcement of Lewis Hamilton's move to Ferrari, that the next earthquake began to emerge in Formula 1. The decision-making level at Red Bull GmbH in Fuschl had already become aware of the allegations made by Horner's personal assistant weeks ago, discussed them intensively - and came to the conclusion that morning that Horner's behavior was impossible to reconcile with the company's code of conduct is.

So Red Bull CEO Oliver Mintzlaff decided after internal consultations that he wanted to terminate Horner. According to BusinessF1, an official press release had already been prepared. The wording is said to have been: "Red Bull GmbH confirms that Christian Horner has left Red Bull Racing with immediate effect. Red Bull GmbH will make no further comment on the matter."

According to information from Motorsport-Total.com , Fuschl planned to allow Horner to leave without loss of face and without lasting damage to his private life and his marriage to "Spice Girl" Geri Halliwell. In the second step, one could have communicated in interviews, for example, an end to the collaboration "for health reasons".



But Horner did not want to accept the termination and now called in his lawyers, who intervened at Red Bull in Fuschl before the press release could be sent out. Horner therefore insisted on an arbitration clause in his contract, which would give him the right to an independent investigation in the event of such allegations.

Mintzlaff and his team now found themselves in a difficult situation. The decision to terminate Horner had actually already been made, at least for Fuschl. However, Horner's lawyers threatened to file an injunction with the High Court in London if the move was actually carried out.

Mintzlaff reportedly "appalled" by Horner's behavior
BusinessF1 writes: "The matter had already lasted nine weeks [...], and Mintzlaff concluded that two more weeks would make no difference. He was certain that an arbitrator would rule against Horner because the evidence was overwhelming spoke against him. Mintzlaff believed that Red Bull GmbH would not be able to keep Horner after what he had seen and read. Secretly he was appalled by Horner's behavior."



https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... n-24030308


Φορνταιοι τί χαμπάρια μάστορα;;; :s_bye
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By edmond
#858396 Αυτός ο καθωσπρεπισμός λιγάκι με ξεπερνά.
Δλδ δεν μπορεί να πει ο χόρνερ στον γιος "άσε μας κουκλίτσα μου" και να τον αγνοεί;
Ο χέλμουτ τι λέει για όλα αυτά;
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By Corto Maltese
#858398
mikeerfol έγραψε:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/68461379

On Sunday the Telegraaf reported that Max Verstappen had been asked by Mohammed Ben Sulayem, the president of F1's governing body the FIA, to back Horner publicly.

BBC Sport has independently verified the story.

Ben Sulayem's approach came after Max Verstappen gave only qualified support to Horner when asked four times in the lead-up to the Bahrain Grand Prix on Saturday whether he had full faith and confidence in him.


Μπόχα βρώμα δυσωδία που θα λεγε και ο Bayern :s_yes

Αυτή είναι η σημαντικότερη είδηση από όλες γιατί εμπλέκει τον Σουλαγέμ στην υπόθεση. Εγώ πέφτω από τα σύννεφα, μετά την εξοντωτική τιμωρία που είχε πέσει στη RBR με τα 8 λεπτά και 34" λιγότερη σήραγγα που έκοψαν όλη την εξέλιξη, περίμενα να μη μιλιούνται :s_omg :hmmm:
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By cmarin
#858401 Ίσως ο Χόρνερ ξέρει κάτι, για αυτό τον καλύπτουν όλοι και δεν το ξέρει ο Γιος....

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By George_Prix
#858404 Τελικα καταλαβα οτι το θεμα Χορνερ εχει κοινωνικες προεκτασεις. Να εξηγησω κυριοι...

Εδω μεσα βλεπουμε οτι η προτιμηση συγκεκριμενων οδηγων, εχει να κανει με την πληρη ταυτιση των οπαδων με τους συγκεκριμενους οδηγους. Ουνα φατσα, ουνα ρατσα που λεμε και στο χουργιο μου.

Για παραδειγμα εγω που ειμαι μπρουταλ σερνικος, καφρος, αλητης και χοντροπετσος, διαλεξα Μαξ. Χαμηλο λεβελ ανθωπου. Αλητης, κακομαθημενος, δυστροπος, ανηθικος και πολλα ακομα. Οποτε λογω χαρακτηρα δεν επαθα και σοκ με αισχη (λολ) που εκανε ο Χορνερ στην αμοιρη αυτη υπαλληλο.

Απο την αλλη μερια βλεπουμε τις Λουιτσες και τους Μαξ-χειτερς (κατα 90% το ιδιο κοινο δηλαδη). Βραχοι ηθικης. Αμεμπτοι. Πονοψυχοι. Με αρχες. Συμπαραστατες των κατατρεγμενων. Δηλαδη ιδιοι με τον αγαπημενο τους οδηγο. Αυτο το ευαισθητο, αυτο το ευθραυστο πλασμα, το Λουη :s_cry

Hamilton: Horner investigation "a really important moment for F1"

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hami ... /10580737/

Ρε λετε την πρωτη ΦΑΑΑΑΑΠ-α απο το Ρασσελ να την εφαγε γιατι μου το ειχε στεναχωρησει με τις καφριλες του ο Χορνερ το παιδι και ειχε καλο μουντ για τον αγωνα? :hmmm:
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By pik.
#858441 γιατι δεν βγαινει ο Μαξ στο τηλεφωνο να υποστηριξει τον Χορνερ ;
Τι κρυβουν οι συνεχεις συναντησεις Jos με Τοτο;

ομαδα μοντελο....θα την κανετε και αυτη... :metalo:
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By Anonymous Founder
#858474 MERCEDES WON'T RUSH F1 DRIVER DECISION AMID VERSTAPPEN RUMOURS
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... /10582923/
Following Lewis Hamilton's shock decision to join Ferrari, Mercedes is on the lookout for a replacement to line up alongside George Russell from 2025.

There is no shortage of candidates available, with a range of initial options going from Mercedes junior Andrea Kimi Antonelli, to more experienced drivers like Carlos Sainz, Alex Albon and Fernando Alonso.

However, the ongoing turmoil inside Red Bull in the wake of the investigation into allegations against Christian Horner has fuelled suggestions of there being a scenario where Mercedes could swoop for Max Verstappen.

That could either be as the result of him falling out with senior Red Bull management – with the Dutchman's father Jos Verstappen having called for Horner to go – or him potentially being able to activate exit clauses in his contract if a new team boss comes in.

Wolff was pictured in discussions with Verstappen Sr. after the Bahrain Grand Prix, and it is understood that they had had dinner together earlier in the weekend.

With the Horner saga far from being at an end, Wolff is aware that there is little to gain by making an early call in case there are developments with Verstappen.

And the logic of waiting makes even more sense because Antonelli, whose progress Wolff wanted to see in the early F2 races, looks set for a tough start to the season with his Prema team having not started the season on the front foot.

Asked by Motorsport.com how hard it was to judge Antonelli now with Prema having a difficult time, Wolff said: "A championship-winning team 17th and 18th, in F2, that's not at all where they should be.

"I think you can look at him against the team-mate, that is one of the comparisons, and I think Oliver Bearman is a top driver.

"But I think, like I always said, I'm almost guilty of talking too much. We will see how the next few races pan out.

"I'm in no hurry for us to take a decision on drivers. I've been rushed in a hurry by Lewis. So, this time around I'm going to take it easy and evaluate the market."

The Verstappen situation remains fluid and it could be that the situation at Red Bull calms down and there is no reason for him to ponder options elsewhere.

Wolff is also well aware that Mercedes' hand is weakened by the fact that it is currently nowhere near as competitive as Red Bull.

Asked if there was a chance that Verstappen could drive for Mercedes in 2025, Wolff said: "I think the driver will always choose the quickest car. That is fundamentally what it's all about.

"At the moment the Red Bull is the quickest car, so that will obviously be the priority."

Αν ο Jos δεν διώξει τον Horner, βλέπω να είναι δύσκολο να αντέξει το κακομαθημένο (και ο μπαμπάς του) με τους αποπάνω. Κοινώς, μια μετακίνηση που θα καλοπληρωθεί κιόλας στην Mercedes, φαίνεται όλο και πιο πιθανή πλέον.
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By g8777
#858498
mikeerfol έγραψε:https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/39651038/jos-verstappen-miss-saudi-gp-amid-horner-furore-sources

Max Verstappen's father Jos will not attend the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix following comments he made about under-fire Red Bull boss Christian Horner, sources have told ESPN.



Για να δούμε, θα αφιερώσει o max την νίκη του στον πατέρα του;