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By Χρήστος Λάππας
#156127
[Anniversary Year] 10 years: Patek's new Split-second Chronograph mvt - Inside the 5959P
Jun 19, 2015,10:02 AM


It's been 10 years already since Patek Philippe has unveiled his first in-house Spilt-second chronograph movement: the CHR 27-525 PS.
 
As a reminder, here are the two versions produced:


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It was the first chronograph movement designed and manufactured entirely in-house for the brand but it was also the slimmest of its kind (27.3 x 5.25 mm chronograph with split-second) in the watchmaking world. It is thinner than the Lemania based CH 27-70 but with an additional Split-second complication.


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Credit: Foversta
 
People who discover Patek's collection sometime ask, wisely, why such a difference in pricing between models which seem to look alike (i.e. same complication choice but much thinner).


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Such a slim movement is really hard to design because it is made of smaller parts which are more difficult to manipulate in the manufacturing process of course but also because these specifications make the parts much more subject to reliability issues, may it be concerning the thin baseplate and bridges (important for the overall rigidity) or the resistance to shocks and wear and tear effects on the smaller parts (axles, pinions etc ...).
 
And, last but not least, the finish is of a very high level, especially when we consider the number of parts. Hence the beauty of the caliber is not only appealing due to the decoration but also because of the bridges and levers shapes.



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The movement is equipped with an isolator that neutralizes the Rattrapante drag on the second sweep hand, thus allowing the torque output to remain quite constant.
 
And don't forget this movement is housed in the 33 mm case of the 5959P reference. Patek Philippe really walked the opposite direction from the increasing case size trend. This monopusher 5959P is incredibly elegant, very legible and keeps quite nice proportion regarding its width. Last but not least, the movement occupies the full volume of the case as you can imagine.
 

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Credit: Foversta
 
The choice of a lacquered dial was decided in order to keep the dial's thickness low compared to an enameled one for instance (thanks Suitbert for the explanation).

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Credit: Dje


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Credit: Dje
 
 
The least we can say is that Patek Philippe proved with this caliber (if it was necessary) that they perfectly master chronograph design as well as dimensions.
 
Happy 10 years birthday!
 
Cheers, Mark


Πηγή: http://patek.watchprosite.com/show-foru ... the-5959p/

Με 33 χιλιοστά διάμετρο κάσας είναι από τα πιο μικρά ανδρικά ρολόγια που κατασκευάζονται σήμερα.

Μια πρόχειρη αναζήτηση μας δίνει τιμή αντιστρόφως ανάλογη του μεγέθους.
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By dstou
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And don't forget this movement is housed in the 33 mm case of the 5959P reference. Patek Philippe really walked the opposite direction from the increasing case size trend


Το σιοδύναμο με το να βγει το καινούργιο Μ3 με 13άρες ζάντες. Ή νέο τρεντ θα κάνει ή θα πάει άπατο.
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By QsisVTS
#156579 εγώ θα αγόραζα τόσο μικρό ρολόι, ποτέ δε συμπάθησα τις μεγάλες κάσες

(από την άλλη δε θα έπαιρνα 13αρες ζάντες :whistlink: )
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By Χρήστος Λάππας
#156602 Η εκδίκηση του μικρού καρπού!

Πολύ ιδιαίτερο κομμάτι το 5959p, και ίσως το μόνο που του λείπει (λέμε τώρα) είναι το εμαγιέ καντράν, που η Patek δεν έβαλε για να κρατήσει χαμηλά το πάχος της πολύ μικρής κάσας.

Το έβαλε όμως στο παρακάτω, το δικό μου Holy Grail Watch:

HANDS-ON: The Patek Philippe split-seconds chronograph Ref.5370P

The story in a second:
The new Patek Philippe split-seconds chronograph (Ref.5370P to its friends) is the new must have über-Patek.

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The talk about Patek Philippe this year centred on their controversial attempt to break into younger market segments – AKA the Calatrava Pilot Travel Time. It’s easy then to forget that Patek released other watches, many of them every inch the classic Patek.

Case in point is the ‘other’ big novelty of the year, a watch that is pure Patek – the Ref.5370P split-seconds chronograph. This watch is the other side of the Calatrava Pilot coin. Patek, who undoubtedly knew they were taking a risk with the Pilot, decided to release this ultra-classical chronograph at the same time, to mitigate any perception of Patek going ‘off-brand’.

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It doesn’t get more on-brand than the 5370P. Everything about this watch, the case, the dial, the pushers and (most definitely) that movement are of the highest quality, in keeping with the maison’s finest traditions. The case is modern at 41mm, but not too large. And of course it’s made from platinum (hence the ‘P’ in the reference). But the real beauty is in the details, like the concave bezel and recessed inner case band with a satin finish, and white gold cabochons at the tip of each lug. In short, the case quite complicated for something that looks so pure and simple. The pushers and crown only add to the story, the oval chronograph pushers add a sporty touch, and the turban style main crown with integrated split-seconds button manages to be large without being overpowering.

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But, nice as it is, the case is only a frame, highlighting the beauty of the dial and movement inside. The dial is pitch-black enamel (if you wondered if the small ‘email’ at 6 was Patek’s entry into the smartwatch race you’d be wrong – email is French for enamel), a difficult material to work with but well worth it as you can see. The white gold Breguet style numerals add elegance, to the utilitarian (also white gold) chronograph scales and hands. Interestingly the chronograph seconds and split seconds hands are not gold, but instead rhodium plated steel. This is due to the fact that the softer gold would not hold up well to the pressures involved in setting and resetting the chronograph.

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Speaking of the chronograph it’s worth pointing out just what a split-seconds chronograph is. Essentially it allows you to time lap and intermediate times without interrupting having to stop and start the chronograph. Patek have been making split-second wristwatches since 1923, so they know what they’re doing by now. Though you don’t need me to tell you that, all you need to do is look at the movement. The in-house CHR 29-535 PS is a beautiful piece of engineering. Making a movement with this sort of complexity requires technical mastery, and making it look this good requires artistry. Patek clearly have both. The movement has 312 parts, and is ridiculously precise – accurate to within -3/+2 seconds a day.

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On the wrist the watch is a study in reserved elegance. The platinum case, black dial and white gold combine to create high contrasts – bright metal shining in an ink black field. Size and fit are great too – the watch doesn’t sit too high, (as you might expect from such a complicated movement), clocking in at a shade over 13.5mm high. Perfect is an overused word, but this watch is as close as you’re likely to get.

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Patek Philippe split-seconds chronograph Ref.5370P pricing
The 5370P will me made in very limited regular production, and has a price fo 220,000 CHF.

Specifications
Brand: Patek Philippe
Model: Split-seconds chronograph
Reference No.: 5370P-001
Case Size: 41mm
Case Height: 13.56mm
Case Material: Platinum
Dial: Black enamel, applied white gold numerals and scales
Strap: Alligator strap with square scales, hand-stitched, shiny black, fold-over clasp
Movement: Caliber CHR 29-535 PS
Functions: Split-Seconds chronograph, instantaneous 30-minute counter, continuous seconds

Πηγή: http://timeandtidewatches.com/hands-on- ... ref-5370p/


Απλά τέλειο.
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By Χρήστος Λάππας
#157351 Hands-On With The Incredible Richard Mille RM27-01 tourbillon Rafael Nadal

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"The RM27-01 is potentially the coolest casual watch on the planet. It is light as a feather (like, you have no idea), and was specifically developed for Rafa Nadal to wear while he plays in professional matches."
:lipsealed:
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By dstou
#157363 Ρισπέκτ στους Ελβετοί(Γάλλοι) για άλλη μία φορά. Αφού μπορούν και ξεπουλάνε ρολόγια με πλαστική κάσα , πλαστικό λουράκι, κόκκινο κουρδιστήρι και κούμπωμα σκρατς στα 740.000 ντολάρ.
Σαπώ μεσιέ Μιλ :s_howdy
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By otso
#157377
Χρήστος Λάππας έγραψε:Hands-On With The Incredible Richard Mille RM27-01 tourbillon Rafael Nadal

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"The RM27-01 is potentially the coolest casual watch on the planet. It is light as a feather (like, you have no idea), and was specifically developed for Rafa Nadal to wear while he plays in professional matches."
:lipsealed:

χεστηκε η φοραδα στο αλωνι . επιτελους θα μπορει ο φουκαρας ο ραφαελ να κοιταει τι ωρα ειναι στους αγωνες του και θα προλαβαινει ετσι να παει σουπερ μαρκετ πριν κλεισουν.
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#157402 Το θέμα είναι ότι είναι εξωφρενικά δύσκολο από μηχανικής άποψης να κατασκευαστεί ένα tourbillon που δεν θα έχει πρόβλημα στους κραδασμούς ενός πρωταθληματικού παιχνιδιού τένις.

Αφού όμως ένιωσες την ανάγκη να κάνεις αυτό το σχόλιο σε ένα θέμα που όπως γράφεις δεν σε ενδιαφέρει, σεβαστό.
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By fubar.gr
#157432 Όπως και να το κάνουμε, η φράση που έβαλε ο otso είναι φούμαρα, αντίστοιχου βεληνεκούς με κάτι διαφημίσεις αυτοκινήτων που λένε τεχνολογία βγαλμένη απο τη F1 κτλ.
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By Χρήστος Λάππας
#157498 Από τεχνολογία F1 σε αυτοκίνητα δρόμου ομολογώ ότι δεν ξέρω και πολλά. Αλλά θα μου φαινόταν αρκετά περίεργο να ήταν εύκολη (ή φτηνή) η κατασκευή ενός tourbillon που να μπορεί να αντέξει τις επιταχύνσεις που αναπτύσσονται σε ένα παιχνίδι χωρίς να πάρεις π.χ. το breguet Overcoil στη μασχάλη.
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By Zorz
#157575 Να προσθέσω εδώ ότι δόκιμη λύση στο πρόβλημα μαζεμένο ρολόι, που να αντέχει στους κραδασμούς του Wimbledon, και σε κομπρεσσέρ κλπ, κλπ, υπάρχει ήδη εδώ κα δεκαετίες. Είναι δοκιμασμένη, αξιόπιστη, ακριβής και παράγεται μαζικά εύκολα, οπότε όλα αυτά τα επιφωνήματα θαυμασμού για το Ρίτσαρτν Μίλε δεν είναι τίποτα άλλο παρά ασκήσεις ματαιότητας για όσους έχουν περισσότερα λεφτά παρά λογική. :iconcool:

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(Obligatory wristwatch porn)